Race-Based Voting in South Carolina
Barack Obama ran away with the vote in the South Carolina Democratic presidential primary tonight. This was because 78% of blacks voted for Obama and only 17% for Clinton (and 2% for Edwards). Blacks in South Carolina must really, really agree with Obama on the issues … or, well, they are voting for him because of his race.
Among whites, only 24% voted for Obama. The other 76% of whites voted for Clinton or Edwards. So whites in South Carolina must really, really disagree with Obama on the issues …
It is ironic that Obama, who set out to transcend race, in South Carolina, at least, the voting came out utterly polarized along racial lines.
But then, consider blacks in South Carolina. 145 years ago your relatives were slaves. Along comes this articulate and inspiring black man - who is running for president of the United States - who are you going to vote for? If I was black, I think it would be really hard not to vote for Obama, even if I favored another candidate a little more on the issues.
Regarding whites in South Carolina, it is harder to justify why they en mass rejected Obama. Remember that these were Democrats voting. They are supposed to be the liberal voters who are above voting for a candidate just because he or she is white. But 76% of these white Democrats rejected Obama.
In truth, America remains a racially polarized country in many ways. This is only going to get worse in the future. With the open borders policy, Hispanics have surpassed blacks as the largest minority racial group. And there is emerging some degree of a three way polarization: whites-blacks-Hispanics.
Hispanics are not voting for Obama, and perhaps this is racially based too. In Nevada only 26% of Hispanic Democrats voted for Obama; 72% of Hispanics voted for Hillary or Edwards. This Hispanics-rejecting-Obama effect will really be seen in the California primary ahead. Things like the race wars in LA , and competition for jobs, tend to push blacks and Hispanics apart.
Remind me again why we want to further increase racial tension and polarization in America by maintaining the open borders policy?
Update: Only 30% of Florida Hispanic Democrats voted for Obama, while 67% of them voted for either Clinton or Edwards.
January 27th, 2008 at 11:37 am
I simply think that the Republican establishment has convinced itself that they can use wedge issues to keep the Black, Hispanic, and other non-white minorities from voting in block against the Republican candidate.
What I fear is in the future when socialistic Democrats will resort to smooth talking leftists “of color” (probably Hispanic), and will use the ploy of an hispanic president and a black vice pres, and literally clean house…………………….to Republican horror.
I have oft wondered why the Republicans figure they can outnumber their natural base, whites, and retain control of this nation. Ron Gunhame at Inductivist, a great blog, has run the numbers and they are this: the longer minorities are here, the further left they go. The more professionalized and educated minorities get, the further left they vote. This held true mathematically for all minorities including Asians and Middle Easterners. He openly is questioning what neocon intentions are. NeoCons are former Trotskyites, not real conservatives and are using demography to transition the nation leftwards. Irving Kristol headed a group called “Coalition for a Democratic Majority” as recently as the early 80’s. If you go back into the pasts of the neocons (who now write at the Weekly Standard and National Review, Commentary, The New York Sun, etc.) you find that many were leftists back in the day. I dont believe em’ for spit.
The Republican establishment is probably counting on whites moving rightwards as they get outnumbered in our cities, etc. This is probably true, because once they are really a minority, former minorites will no longer feel compelled to ‘make nice’ around them and defer to them personally. Have you ever been somewhere where you are a small minority? Yup me too. The stares, the open dislike, the aggressive rudeness? Me too. White liberals blow my mind with their naivete when they seem to think that minorities will always be passive and eager and polite to them. If you are a tourist in a poor country maybe, not when you are a resident of “someplace else”. Blood is thicker than water for every other race on the planet, save one, the white one. We like to show our open-mindedness as a way of feeling superior to other whites and show our status by showing how fantastically unconcerned we are about massive immigration.
What I see is more and more Americans moving to made-up fairy-tale villages like this:
http://www.westhaventn.com/Vision/tabid/838/Default.aspx
Look at that.
3-6,000 square foot McMansions about four feet apart with their own town store, http://www.westhaventn.com/TownCenter/tabid/710/Default.aspx
…………………..their own town park, http://www.westhaventn.com/Community/tabid/438/Default.aspx (look at all the white faces, there are no other kind in the photo………………..Ive seen no minority there).
Their own golf course, small lake, playground………………………….and will eventually all be behind a fence. You can still drive in that particular development.
Here is the kicker, this place is in Franklin, 20 miles from where any signifigant amounts of minorities live. Down the same former state highway there are three other little planned Edens. All of the other ones have big wrought Iron Gate fences that are about eight feet all with sharp points at the top and a drawbridge, er, electric gate that you have to keycard your way into.
Here is another one not that far from me where the real wealthy hide, er…..live:
http://www.thegovernorsclub.com/layout10.asp?id=187&page=4343#
WATCH THE LITTLE VIDEO DAN.
Like the other places that are not Westhaven, you cannot even DRIVE THROUGH the Governor’s club. There are two ways in that I know of, both with armed guards in very nice brick (large!) guard shacks with a *big* pole-gate (your car could not knock that thing down) blocking autos from freely being able to drive in. They dont even show you the really large houses in the video, as their are some Gold-Coast-Scott Fitzgerald Estates in one section of that place that you can see driving down a road adjacent to it that must be 30,000 square feet made of painted stone (one yellow one is simply breathtaking-I wish I had a picture).
This place also, is 10 miles or so from where any of the Hispanic gardeners and lawncutters would actually have an apartment—–so why all the security?
Do you see what I mean? A change in Tax law that a real lefty would bring to bear would probably destroy alot of those people financially. But they are making that happen in the future by supporting el cheapo labor and massive immigration now. Lets go back to the 1950’s for an example, when the upper bracket was over 80%. If everything you made after 200K was taxed at 80%, alot of people would have to really get creative in order to maintain their various businesses, pay their mortgage, send the kids to the academy, club memberships, lexuses, etc. . Can you imagine the effect on the rich? When the rich get whites outnumbered and start to REALLY lose at the polls, do they even doubt that taxes wont get redistributive and utterly confiscatory? Obama is a Saul Alinsky-Reverend Jerimiah T. Wright (read Steve Sailer on that)-influenced lefty-guy (but he’s hiding it as Hillary hides her 60’s past). But even he is quite moderate to other voices who will be taking over the democratic party in ensuing decades. That is really the cuff of the true right winger’s (like me) dilemma. The massive confiscatory and redistributive policies wont be really taking place for about 25-30 years at least even if we pseudo-merge with Mexico. But when they begin……………there will be no turning back the demographic momentum and the non-whites insistence that they “have just as much” as whites or its “racist”. In a way, the wealthy are selling out their grandchildren’s children’s prospects so that they and thier immediate children can have it good for three or four more decades until the boomers are completely gone…………………………….then a huge demographic shift in political power in the nation will be taking place tilted towards the multiculturalist left.
Even with Dems and Independents voting in the S. Carolina primary, Im still astonished McCain won there. Im astonished Lindsey Graham campaigns with him. Its kinda amazing. There is no consitutional amendment, no binding treaties, and no laws that cannot be overturned by laws passed in the future. I have no idea what the wealthy are thinking. If they think they can enter into international trade agreements that agree to keep confiscatory taxation down here or something, they will be mistaken………………..
UNLESS YOU CONSIDER THIS VERY SINISTER POSSIBILITY……………………….the corporate elite expect things to get leftist here, but also expect to be so wealthy that they will simply move to gated-little edens in other nations if taxes go through the roof here in 50 years, a global feudalism of sorts beholden to corporate hegemony. I have worried for years that corporations seem to be taking over so much of our economy and every little type of market and business sees franchises push out any other kind of less-capitalized concern (look at the resturaunt business for example). The upper-echelon corporate elite perhaps expects to be unassailable tax-wise behind dividend payments, housing “allowances”, corporate apartments and residences bought by the company for all corporate officers and board members, etc. Maybe they have figured that legally they can hold onto these kinds of priveledges forever and too hell with any one country. Perhaps they are right, but that certainly isn’t my vision of America. It will also make the corporate officers and boards more beholden than ever to the very companies they work for.
Perhaps Im simplistic, but my political instincts tell me that having an overwhelming majority of people who usually vote like you is better than trying to triangulate and quadrangulate and cinqangulate amongst 3-5 groups of simlilar size, attempting to broker alliances, give favors, and divide with intrigue as your modus machiviallian operandi. I’d rather just have that 1980 electorate, state my case, and win outright—-and pay a bit more for labor on the front end. But what do I know, I haven’t run GM or Ford into the ground, or have outsourced Boeing, or watched the Indians and Chinese catching up to us technologically, or made us slaves to foreign oil……………we should have elected Buchannan back in 92.
The South Carolina primary should have shown the Dems one thing…………….Blood is thicker than water.
January 27th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
miles,
Interesting links. Hey - I’d like to live there. On the other hand, I really don’t like this trend toward gated communities. It reminds me of South America.
Regarding why the Republican elites still favor the open borders policy, I am less cynical about it. I think they are simply too intimidated to think clearly because they don’t want to be called racists. Instead, they want to show off their goodness and, just like all Democrats, show that they are “fantastically unconcerned about massive immigration.”
No matter how you cut it, massive Hispanics immigration undermines the Republican Party. I think that there is no calculated plot to somehow use race to help Republicans; I think Republicans elites simply have a blind spot. It is a kind of slow suicide through political stupidity. We are seeing the slow demise of the conservative/libertarian-conservative party, unless the open borders policy is reversed soon.
Of course it won’t really be suicide for the Republican Party. Instead, the Republican Party will move to the left. So we will have a far-left party and a middle-left party.
I wrote a post once on where the Republican Party is headed:
http://nospeedbumps.com/?p=226
January 30th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
[...] Regarding the Democratic candidates for president, who is going to win? And the answer is: Hillary Clinton. Why? Because the vast majority of Hispanics will not vote for him, and because most white older Democrats will not vote for him. Why is this? One can only speculate since you can’t climb into the heads of these Democrats. If for many it is for racial reasons, they surely won’t admit this in the exit polls. But whatever the reasons, Obama will not be able to get enough Hispanics and older Democrats to vote for him. So Hillary wins the nomination. [...]